Penney Vanderbilt developed the map of Troy, including the Troy Union Railroad, when she was writing a blog about the Boston & Maine going through the Hoosac Tunnel to serve Troy. It shows important points like Troy Union Station, the Adams Street Freight House and the Green Island Bridge. Other blogs you might like include the
Troy Union Railroad Towers; abandonment of train service to Troy; and last but not least, the Troy Union Railroad.
Find out more about the Boston & Maine Railroad and Troy, New York
It all started out when we got a note from Richard O. Aichele from Information Works Inc. in Saratoga Springs, NY. He commented on one of our WebSites about “Who Owns Grand Central” and then: “Back in 1980 I lived under GCT for several days between runs of the Irving Trust Winter Olympics Spacial. I was the guy who had the fun of getting the five private cars together, dealing with the railroads and making the trips run as smoothly as possible. I have some the details of it on my website www.inforworks.com/trains.htm
Still remember how different – quiet like a cathedral – GCT was about 3 or 4 AM.
Took a look at his Website. Before I even got to the 1980 Olympics, I ran into a section on the Troy Union Railroad. (One of our favorites).
Then I got to his section on the 1980 Olympics and the Irving Trust Company special train. Great details, great pictures.
He also has a section on the Railroad Steam Era.
I usually do not watch videos because I “read speed” and can cover more stuff with words. But someone sent me a link for a video
“A great RR film from the early 1950s w/ a good amount on the Hudson Division.”
I watched it then looked at “upcoming” on the right hand side. They had others that a NY Central fan could not ignore like the Century, the Empire, etc.
Great way to spend an evening!
The branch line of the New York Central Railroad (referred to as the Troy & Schenectady) did something almost unheard of. It crossed an Interstate Highway at grade!
Now, the full facts on this highly unusual event can be found from Gino DiCarlo.
The former Troy & Schenectady line was still operating when the Northway (I-87) was built (1960’s) and there still was a grade crossing on the Northway a short distance south of the “Twin Bridges” over the Mohawk River (this was probably one of only a very few grade crossings on an Interstate Highway in the United States). It wasn’t there long, as the line was cut back within a couple of years to an industrial site just east of Route 9. You can still see where the line passed under Route 9 perhaps a mile north of Boght Corners.
During the period that the line crossed Interstate 87 (ETT has a typo “89”) at Dunsbach Ferry, the following instruction appeared in the Employee Time Table under “special instruction 103 public crossings at grade: Manually controlled traffic signals:” “Trains or engine must stop in rear of stop sign and a member of crew must operate pushbuttons in manual control box. After traffic signals have been operating for at least twenty seconds train or engine may proceed over crossing, signals must be restored to normal position after movement over highway has been completed.”
See some photos from Google Earth of the crossing location.
The only interlocking on the T&S was NYCRR Signal Station 8 at Schenectady, which governed the junction of the T&S and the Mohawk Division Main Line, and the T&S crossing of the Delaware and Hudson. At Green Island, a signal governing movements on the switch that joined the T&S with the D&H Green Island Branch was controlled by Troy Union Railroad Tower 3 on River Street in Troy.
From Gordon Davids
Once we “designed” a fantasy model railroad. The highway crossing remained. we can only cross Interstate 87, the Northway, between the hours of 2 am to 5 am.
We ran into these pictures in “All Over Albany” Thought some of our readers who follow Troy’s railroads would enjoy them.
As you know if you are a regular reader, we have covered the “Fabled Rutland Milk” a lot. We even named it “FABLED”. But we mostly talk about the era when it went through Troy.
The Rutland Milk started in Ogdensburg, went across the top of New York State, crossed into Vermont and turned over to New York Central at Chatham for trip to New York City.
Well , the New York Central ran it from Chatham to New York City:
In the Third Quarter 2015 publication of the New York Central Historical Society, Jack Shufelt supplied some comments regarding the “North White Plains: Equipment, Facilities, and Operations” article.
“F-Ms were not the only power used on the daily Rutland Milk train in the 1950s. Alcos and GMs were also used. It was all based on whatever 72nd Street had ready. In the old days, the Rutland Milk were trains #77 and #88, not #87 and #88. Both #77 and #88 were eliminated from the ETT by 1935. By the 1940s [they were] trains NK-1 and KN-2.
“[Regarding the] photograph of the 4525 at North White leaving or ready to leave with the Rut. Milk, [the] date of photo is 1950 and it is stated that this engine was a regular on that train. Page 95 of Lou Grogan’s book shows what I believe to be the same photograph after he began to move as it has the same locomotive and identical equipment up to the slide off tank car. That photo shows a date of 1948. The 1022 is [shown] doing that work in January of 1949. I think January 1950 may be more accurate. I know that the Rut was dieselized in the autumn of 1949 so that is why I think it was January 1950. I remember the first run as it stopped at Millerton to wait for, likely, No. 15 to clear the block at Hillsdale. Got to climb up and look around.
“Once the West Side was set up for electric the Rut Milk changed to electric at North White just like the freight trains did at Harmon destined to 72nd Street.